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As ever, I would vote for the the person who would do the least harm to the Republic and myself, in that order, and whereas several months ago I would have thought that Obama would be far less apt to be a politician, I can only blame myself for my delusions.
I'll cut this short because all of this is moot. I live in Puerto Rico. We don't vote in the general.
I guess now everyone knows that. Charming isn't it?
Even so, given the chance I would vote for Obama {I did in the primary} but already at this early date my expectations have been lowered a great deal.
Being angry about politics, the art of the possible and a better option than Civil War, is where I stand and I guess that will never change.
I like your viewpoint Carmen, thanks.
RC, frankly, I hope Hillary supporters DO protest. There is not enough protest in America I think. To that end, I have always been cautious about Obama. Although unless he totally effs up, he will get my vote in November. I don't want to have to write in someone else. BUT, he lost me when his response regarding the police acquittals in the Sean Bell case in New York was to urge calm to black folks. This was before ANY mention of ANY action had been made. So insulting! And as far as campaign finance, I would have more respect for him if he simply said look I've raised boatloads of money from boatloads of people. I had no idea and now I prefer not to be hampered by public financing limits. His wimpy decision, released on his website, smells to high heaven.
and scream, "we will be victorious , or let no man come
home alive!"
Dawncita, yes. I'm kinda stuck on that too. Sadly, I think many (most?) people are more threatened by repeated involuntary pooping than getting shot. I know I am! Crazy, right?
Now I know Nez worked on some demonstrating in NYC just a few years ago {he reminded me about what Bloomberg did to break that up} and maybe there is a clue there as to what happens.
From my very distant perspective, far away from the action, I think the controlling entities have kind of figured out the protest dynamic very well and now know how to deflect it. Of course there are some things that happen like the anarchists at the free trade talks and the Vieques/Navy confrontation and the immigrant demonstrations, so the tradition maybe just needs a little encouragement.
We didn't get the right to vote until 1920, decades after african-american men.
We were still considered chattel long after slaves were set free.
Even today, we *still* have problems renting apartments, getting promoted, getting proper recognition and respect.
For some reason, there is a misperception that women somehow haven't faced the same trials and tribulations as african-americans. This is simply false. As we have just seen, the media shies away from racism but sexism? It's like, "Hey, ladies, why are you mad? You have no reason to be mad. We were just kidding. God, don't you bitches have any sense of humor?"
It hasn't been a bed of roses for us and now we know that the party has no intention of paying any attention to our issues. They don't give a flying f^&* if the better qualified and stronger candidate was unselected in favor of a guy with no real job experience. The whole exercise of the primary season was a waste of time and energy. The deck was stacked. It wasn't just that Hillary lost, it's that 18 million of us were had. It was a DNC con game of national proportions. And we're going to do something about it.
But as for Obama? Last year when he announced, I thought he might be something special. I thought he was some kind of gifted politician. Now I realize he's just a ruthless man with average political skills and zero scruples. The minute his campaign started to attack the Clintons of racism, he lost me. That was below the belt and completely unnecessary. I'll never vote for him now and from what I can see, he has single handedly set back the state of race relations.
Please re-read my post. No one is saying life is a "bed of roses" for anyone. Who even talks like that in the "economic tightening of 2008"?
For the record, I've never thought the Clintons were/are racists. Never. My posts are a consistent testament to that. However, I am SURE, the Clinton's played on the worst aspects of racial prejudice in an attempt to win the nomination for Hillary. That is WORSE as I see it. Also, I have always stated, unequivocally, that Obama is a talented politician. I still believe that although if he keeps putting up Presidential Seal arts and crafts I may have to cast my vote for Cynthia McKinney.
As I said, "I stand with you in your standing up." A lot of eyes are turned your way. Let's see what you create.
I'm not sure if you noticed it, but Tim Wise wrote a great piece for Hill Spawn's supporters. If you haven't already, you should check it out.
walk in on the republican party now and it's
yours! I am dead serious, and I have a privileged
vantage point! do it now! local level and its yours
start with congress... republican party is the france
of the political world right now... you can march right
in and take over without a fight!
as long as they aren't making important decisions that involve
a future that they have no stake in.
Look for a Hilary primary challenge in 2012 if Obama wins.